Aug 08, 2016 3:47PM

Winona Ryder Gets Deep On Depression, Owning Your Feels & Being A Teen Outcast

"I'm so sick of people shaming women for being sensitive or vulnerable."

Goddamn, Winona Ryder is the best. We've already got a whole lifetime of evidence supporting that claim, and now she's given us even more. After straight killing it in the most binge-able/talked about show of 2016, your girl sat down for an interview with the The Cut to riff on depression, how we should all be getting down with our sensitive sides, and her life as a witchy outcast in high school. Be still, our beating hearts.

Winona kicks things off by taking issue with all the chat chat that deters females from embracing their vulnerability, saying: "I'm so sick of people shaming women for being sensitive or vulnerable. It's so bizarre to me." Us too. She revisits that idea later on in the interview, talking about how the word "sensitive" has been hijacked and turned into a synonym for weak or crazy. Using her characters in Stranger Things and Girl, Interrupted, along with an infamous interview she did with Diane Sawyer in the 90s where she opened up about her depression, she puts together a pretty great case for being cool with yourself and your emotions, saying:

"I wish I could unknow this, but there is a perception of me that I'm supersensitive and fragile. And I am supersensitive, and I don't think that's a bad thing. To do what I do, I have to remain open. There's a line in [Stranger Things] where someone says [of her character], 'She's had anxiety problems in the past.' A lot of people have picked up on that, like, 'Oh, you know, she's crazy.' And I'm like, 'Okay, wait a second, she's struggling. Two kids, deadbeat dad, working her ass off. Who wouldn't be anxious?'

Even that word, anxious. It's a bad word. And so like all of these words — it's kind of what I tried to do with Girl, Interrupted, and why I was so invested in that book and trying to get it made [as a movie]. My whole point was, this happens to every girl, almost. I remember I did Diane Sawyer, and I talked about my experiences with anxiety and depression when I was that age. And I think by doing that, maybe coupled with my physical size, there's this "crazy" thing. And I've realised recently it's literally impossible to try and change that story."

Winona then makes us feel mildly better about our own awkward teen years by saying how much of a weirdo everyone thought she was during high school, even though she was pretty bloody famous.

"I did Beetlejuice, and it was a big movie, but it didn't help my high school experience. In fact it made it worse. I was a freak and a witch," she says, confirming that most kids just don't know what's up. "Even Heathers, which was, like, not a hit at all — I mean over the years it became one, but no. That was the first time I was even described in the script as attractive in any way." Actually unbelievable.

Winona says that she'll never regret opening up about depression, despite the narrative that was written about her as a result, because of how much it helped other people:

"I've always been super-private and protective of certain experiences and certain friends," she says. "I don't regret opening up about what I went through [with depression], because, it sounds really cliché, but I have had women come up to me and say, 'It meant so much to me.' It means so much when you realise that someone was having a really hard time and feeling shame and was trying to hide this whole thing… And even the whole, like, sensitive, fragile thing. I do have those qualities, and I just don't think there's anything wrong with them. There were times when I let it feel too overwhelming and almost, like, shamed, but I had to just get over that."

And then, right when you're convinced you couldn't love her anymore, she divulges just how much she binge reads/watches TV before likening herself to a character in Twilight Zone:

"It's almost like that Twilight Zone episode where that guy says, 'I just want to be left alone so I can read my books.' And then he ends up being sent to a planet where it's just him and his books, and he's so happy, and then his glasses fall off and they break."

You're perfect, mate!

Head here to read the full interview. 

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Madeleine Woon